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Old 2007-09-06, 10:07 PM
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Remove the bagged stuff. It's useless for when it comes to framing the walls.

You can do rigid foam or tar paper up against the concrete, then framing, then insulation, then vapour barrier, then drywall. This is how I see it done in the new houses I work in where the basement are sold as finished.

As for duct in the ceiling, you can either box around it, or redo the duct.
Once the tar paper is on the concrete wall, do you leave a space behind the studs? I know it's not good to put the wood against the concrete, but can you put it against the tar paper?

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Do you really need a building permit to frame the basement walls?
What is the process for getting a building permit?
Do I need to show drawings on what my plans are?

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Old 2007-09-06, 10:27 PM
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Once the tar paper is on the concrete wall, do you leave a space behind the studs? I know it's not good to put the wood against the concrete, but can you put it against the tar paper?
Yes, leave a small gap. This also makes it easier for pulling low-voltage wiring for speakers, TV, phone, networking. It can be used for electrical too, but you will need to drill through every few studs to keep the wire secure.

You need a permit. Consult your local municipality.
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Once the tar paper is on the concrete wall, do you leave a space behind the studs? I know it's not good to put the wood against the concrete, but can you put it against the tar paper?

Joseph,
Do you really need a building permit to frame the basement walls?
What is the process for getting a building permit?
Do I need to show drawings on what my plans are?

Thanks.
Research the tar paper a little more. I've heard using housewrap like Tyvek or Typar is better.

Regarding the air space behind the studs...read this.

http://www.joneakes.com/cgi-bin/getd...als.cgi?id=743
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Old 2007-09-07, 08:17 AM
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I'm working in the basement of a new house under construction today. I'll take a picture.
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Joseph,
Do you really need a building permit to frame the basement walls?
What is the process for getting a building permit?
Do I need to show drawings on what my plans are?

Thanks.
Yes, you need a permit. Contact your city for more details of what they need and the cost for the permit.

Have you ever done any renovations of this size before? If not, might be best to hire someone.

If you plan to move ahead with this project, do a lot of research. There are a number of ways to insulate your basement. And many pros and cons for each. So do your homework.

The main thing before you start this project is make sure you have no leak or condensation problems on your basement walls. If you do, fix those up properly first.
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Old 2007-09-08, 03:30 PM
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This is a wall that will be finished in a new house I am working on in Mississauga.

It's tar paper over the concrete, then a small gap, then wood studs. What I have seen them do in the other houses is use white insulation. Don't recall if there was a vapour barrier or not since the drywall was up by that time.
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Old 2007-09-17, 08:32 AM
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Thanks everyone for responding, now I just have to get to it.
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what about spray foaming directly on to the concrete - mike holmes likes to do that...
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