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Old 2008-03-04, 10:29 PM
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Finally had our first meeting with the low-voltage subcontractor. I've decided to put most of my cat5/cable drops on the second floor and get one or two conduits put in. I figure anything that they offer that can be done after closing (central vac, garage doors) may as well be done after closing.

Regarding security, I know there's some debate over the value of a security system and/or monitoring, but should I consider having it put in anyway? I would think it's pretty hard to put in after the fact beacuse of all of the window sensors and I wouldn't want unnecesary holes in the walls.

Also I would like a video doorbell since the we have solid front doors. They offer the "teledoorbell" for $2K!!! How difficult is it to put something lilke this in after closing? Any recommendations for a video doorbell? I like the idea of putting the video on the tv but I think I would also like a small intercon screen as well.

I would also like to implement some Home automation. What systems are good out there? And how do these tie in with the doorbell, security and garage openers?

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Old 2008-03-04, 11:07 PM
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Teledoorbell is pretty much it. I've installed a few of them. You just need a run of cat5 to the doorbell location, so at least get them to do that.

$2K may sound like a lot, but what all does that include? Video distribution? RF modulator?

For security, usually builders will include wiring for 2 motions and a keypad. If you want all the windows and such done, getting it done before the drywall is always helpful.

For Home Automation, there is a lot of different options. Really depends on how automated you are looking to go. Prewiring for this is also a tremendous advantage. However lighting control may require some specific electrical work done.

I sell Colorado vNet for mid-end and Crestron for high end.
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Old 2008-03-05, 12:33 PM
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Teledoorbell $2K i believe includes everything (tapping into the phone lines and cable feed) Probably doesn't install very cleanly for digital cable tho. Still seems a little pricey to me.

Those Home Automation systems look pretty slick! Do they "retrofit" to work with the existing climate/security systems? I'm guessing those systems use proprietary communication? How would these compare to the open (?) standards like x10, Insteon, or Zwave?
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Teledoorbell $2K i believe includes everything (tapping into the phone lines and cable feed) Probably doesn't install very cleanly for digital cable tho. Still seems a little pricey to me.
If you are looking to do an RF modulator with a digital cable box, you don't have much choice except to spend the big bucks on one that will work. The modulator alone is over $500.

It may be less expensive to just run extra RG6 to each TV and plug it into a video input.


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Those Home Automation systems look pretty slick! Do they "retrofit" to work with the existing climate/security systems? I'm guessing those systems use proprietary communication? How would these compare to the open (?) standards like x10, Insteon, or Zwave?
They do use a proprietary communication. Crestron can interface with just about everything on the planet, however not entirely 100% with DSC security yet.

Colorado vNet will work with Ademco security panels and AprilAire climate controls.

Both companies have wireless options.
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If you are looking to do an RF modulator with a digital cable box, you don't have much choice except to spend the big bucks on one that will work. The modulator alone is over $500.
Yikes. I have an analog cable RF modulator, frequency selectable from 1-125 or something from Radio Shack, and it was under $100 a few years ago. Never did deploy it, though.

Would probably be cheaper to distribute the doorbell video through a separate RCA or s-video input, and instead of flipping to your special doorbell channel 99, you just switch inputs on your TV.
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Old 2008-03-06, 06:49 PM
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Exactly. The customs that I do cameras for I make sure I always sell an extra RG6 run to every TV.


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Would probably be cheaper to distribute the doorbell video through a separate RCA or s-video input, and instead of flipping to your special doorbell channel 99, you just switch inputs on your TV.
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Wait a minute

S-Video?

Isn't it high definition yet?
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Wait a minute

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Isn't it high definition yet?
High definition viewing of who's at your front door? Sure, it's called opening the door
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Sure. You can put IP based cameras out there with megapixel resolutions, but at a couple of thousand dollars each, that may not be practical.
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High definition viewing of who's at your front door? Sure, it's called opening the door
Nope that would be much low definition



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Sure. You can put IP based cameras out there with megapixel resolutions, but at a couple of thousand dollars each, that may not be practical.
I m more of a get it cheapest and right kind of guy. My 42" plasma is from walmart for $799. I would definitely not spend thousands.. But I still can't stand watching anything below 1080i on my TV..
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