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Old 2013-03-20, 03:36 PM
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Dear Building Homes Newmarket Community,

Four Season Comfort Heating and Cooling has been fortunate to provide the Building Homes community members HVAC sales and service for the last 6 years. We are pleased to announce the details of the AC Group Buy for the upcoming 2013 season. Please see the important information below to determine which air conditioner best suits your needs; just give us a call or email with your questions.

How to we determine which Air Conditioner size is best?

It is very important that your air conditioning unit is sized appropriately prior to installation. If the unit is undersized it will run continuously without reaching set point, particularly during peak hours. If the air conditioning unit is oversized, it will short cycle (turn on and off continuously) resulting in warm pockets of air in the home.
Below is a list of additional information we may require when determining how to correctly size the air conditioning unit in your home.
1. Square footage(excluding basement)
2. Ceiling height - main level and upstairs
3. Exposure(does the home back North, South, East, or West)
4. Size and number of large windows in the home

What SEER Rating or Efficiency is Best?

The SEER (seasonal energy efficiency ratio) rating, determines how efficient you air conditioning unit is or how much electricity it consumes. The higher the SEER numbers the more efficient the AC. Our cooling season in Southwestern Ontario is typically only 3-4 months of the year therefore I would not recommend installing a super-efficient high seer air conditioning unit as the initial capital cost takes a long time to pay off especially with a short cooling season.
For most of our clients I recommend an air conditioning unit with a SEER rating of 13, but no higher than a 14.5. The difference in savings from a 13 seer 2 ton to a 14.5 seer 2 ton is $10.00 per cooling season.
Below is a list of questions we would ask in order to determine what SEER rating is best for you.
1. Do you have an existing inefficient air conditioning unit? (If you answered yes, there are rebates available if we remove an old AC unit and replace it with a 14.5 seer or greater).
In a new subdivision this is usually not the case.
2. Are you considered a heavy user? Do you set the air conditioner in May and run it until September without turning it off? Or would you only use the air conditioner on the hot humid days?
3. What temperature do you keep your home during the cooling season?
4. Do you prefer a colder setting or just enough to remove some humidity from the air?

What products do we recommend?

There are many air conditioning manufacturers available in the market today.
Premium products – these are sold and installed through a dealer network. Licensed and certified technicians are factory trained on installation and service.
Mid- Range products – these are builder quality products sold to any HVAC company. I would be pleased to discuss the differences in product lines.
At Four Season Comfort Heating & Cooling we recommend the Premium American Standard/Trane line of products. We have installed hundreds of these cooling systems within the GTA. Both we and our clients have been very satisfied with the quality and reliability of this product line. The American Standard line of air conditioning units were rated number 1 by Consumer Reports! Other product lines are also available as well.
2013 Group Buy Pricing and Details
Below is some pricing for the American Standard/Trane 13 and 14.5 Seer units. This pricing includes complete installation with wall mounted brackets and a 15ft copper line set. Warranty is 10 years parts and 5 year labour. HST is additional.
Single Unit Pricing:

American Standard 13 SEER (Deluxe Model – gray unit) American Standard 14.5 SEER
1.5 ton $2225.00 installed 1.5 ton $2450.00 installed
2.0 ton $2300.00 installed 2.0 ton $2500.00 installed
2.5 ton $2450.00 installed 2.5 ton $2650.00 installed
3.0 ton $2600.00 installed 3.0 ton $2800.00 installed
3.5 ton $2800.00 installed 3.5 ton $3000.00 installed
4.0 ton $3000.00 installed 4.0 ton $3200.00 installed

Group Buy - Multiple Pricing Discount:
10 AC units deduct (95.00 per unit)
11-25 AC units deduct ($115.00 per unit)
26-50 AC units deduct (155.00 per unit)

In order to participate in this group buy we require a $250.00 deposit prior to May 01, 2013. Payments may be made by check or interact email money transfer. Once this deposit is received we will send an invoice showing the deposit has been received and a tentative installation date. The deposit secures your pricing as well as your installation date. On May 02, 2013 we will determine how many participants we have in the group buy and apply the necessary discount to the invoice. If the air conditioner has been installed and paid prior to May 02/13 we will refund the applicable group buy discount to our client via check, Interact or email money transfer.

MISC Products
Humidifiers
We would recommend the Honeywell line of humidifiers as well. Group buy pricing on the Honeywell HE225 for homes up to 3000sq ft is $325.00 installed. The Honeywell HE 265 for homes 3000sq ft – 4500sq ft is $395.00 installed.
Air Purification Systems
In terms of air cleaners I would recommend using a 3M filter for the first 6 months of your occupancy. I would not recommend making an investment on an indoor air quality system initially unless you are certain the ducts are clean. Once most of the construction debris has been removed from your ductwork I would recommend the Accuclean system which does not restrict air circulation like many of the media filters and other systems.

Client Testimonials
http://www.hawthornevillager.com/php...ic.php?t=24763
http://homestars.com/companies/27976...season-comfort
http://www.estatesofcreditridge.net/...-buy-t674.html

Please let us know if you have any questions, we would be happy to assist.
Best Regards,
Craig Newhouse
Four Season Comfort Heating & Cooling
Cell: 416-524-7228 Office 519-941-6995
Email: fourseasoncomfort@bellnet.ca
Web: www.fourseasoncomfort.com

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Hi fellow Copper Hills neighbours,

We had our air condiitioner installed this week by "Four Season Comfort Heating & Cooling"! I would highly recommend them. Craig Newhouse, the owner, is really a down to earth guy and honest. His installers were great and did a very good job on the install. He has received alot of great reviews on the Forums and has also posted his Company information on Forums as well.
I have already referred him to my neighbour who is also going to go with him and also a few people they know.

I would give him a call for a quote if you are looking for an air cond unit.

Craig Newhouse
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Cell: 416-524-7228 Office 519-941-6995
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Old 2013-06-27, 02:26 PM
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The prices seem to be pretty steep, are they for silver model or Gold model?
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Old 2013-06-28, 11:16 AM
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I agree we had a 3.5 ton AC carrier installed along with gas hook ups for all appliances including outside bar b q for under $3000.00 i suggest shopping around before committing
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You can go cheap and have an amateur install it or pay a little more for quality work. The unit itself is not the only thing you should worry about, it's also how they install it!
http://www.kellyshvac.com/AirConditioningScams.htm


I personally went with "Spring Homes" because they have their own installers, BBB affiliated, carry American Standard, have a TSSA license and rated very highly on homestars.com.

And to be honest with you, I am not disappointed with their work. The two installers explained everything to me. How it works, what they were doing (step by step) and how to maintain it.


http://www.springhome.ca/
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Old 2013-06-29, 11:07 AM
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True enough but in our case we did have a reputable ac gas installer do the work and as a matter of fact also did work for mattamy and Preston as well as other builders their work carries a warranty as does the unit itself so not necessarily having companies listed on homestars or other sites with glowing reviews will mean superior work or product but does usually guarantee higher prices
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True enough but in our case we did have a reputable ac gas installer do the work and as a matter of fact also did work for mattamy and Preston as well as other builders their work carries a warranty as does the unit itself so not necessarily having companies listed on homestars or other sites with glowing reviews will mean superior work or product but does usually guarantee higher prices
Just curious, what is the name of this company you used?

I did a lot of research on ACs in general, the different type of brands, companies which carries them, etc.

To me, Trane was one of the top brands, so I went with American Standard which is made by the same company.

I also checked out companies licenses, Better Business Bureau ratings, homestars reviews etc.

Some of these companies license out their work! Hire contractors to do their job. So that how they save on cost.

Some things I noticed with the AC companies in general.
-The AC unit itself will come with 10 parts warranty.
-Labor Warranty is also included (years very by companies).
-NOT all AC installers will assume the builder furnace warranty.
-Some say that you must make a cash deposit to reserve the date. (I am totally against this, as they can run off with your money). If the deposit is made via MasterCard, there is at least some recourse.
-Some companies are a member of the BBB. (I prefer that they are, at least there is some kind of intervention if there is a dispute, unless you go with a big company like SEARS, Home Depot, etc).


It all about peace of mind.

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Old 2013-07-03, 02:17 PM
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The lowest quote I got is $1,900 for 3T 13 Seer Keeprite or York, I have no confidence for their installation.
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